KMVeneta

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Eugene
Posts:423 Points:74,705 Joined:Apr 2012
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 1:31:12 PM
I believe this is reducing my fuel economy in my F-150
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
Posts:18,650 Points:1,612,445 Joined:Nov 2008
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Message Posted: May 21, 2012 2:47:51 AM
EtOH has never been the answer, esp. not when it comes from food sources.
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sydb7

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Atlanta
Posts:3,563 Points:1,920,900 Joined:Mar 2003
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Message Posted: May 20, 2012 2:37:53 PM
No food for fuel! non-food ethanol only!
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methaneman

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Minnesota
Posts:2,610 Points:1,286,200 Joined:May 2002
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 3:03:09 PM
Get rid of ethanol all together. E10 is ruining alot of engines now. It is a loosing fuel alternative.
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sparky808

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Honolulu
Posts:3,018 Points:601,635 Joined:Sep 2011
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 10:08:55 AM
End the mandate.
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Virgin55

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Ocala
Posts:313 Points:888,340 Joined:May 2010
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 4:43:18 AM
ok
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nb52

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Grand Rapids
Posts:7,795 Points:1,549,775 Joined:Nov 2008
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 3:24:45 AM
It has been known for decades.
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dave12

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Twin Cities
Posts:3,111 Points:1,838,165 Joined:Nov 2005
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 2:43:18 AM
In Brazil they make the crap from sugar cane and they don't endlessly subsidize it, like forever like we do here!
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tomok

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Portland
Posts:33,088 Points:2,348,435 Joined:Aug 2006
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:08:00 AM
Ethanol is Not good for internal combustion engines or any other engines. Use 100% straight gasoline, if possible. NO fuel from Food! No subsidies the taxpayers will have to pay for. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost, if possible! The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
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Vette1967

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Albany
Posts:5,982 Points:1,278,925 Joined:Jun 2009
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 10:54:40 PM
This is not good.
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KAR120CSII

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Oregon
Posts:3,193 Points:623,645 Joined:Apr 2010
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 10:45:06 PM
Why doesn't EPA get back to doing what they do best -- not shilling for Agri-Business -- and protect the public?
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abacus44

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Toms River
Posts:3,495 Points:750,665 Joined:Jan 2011
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:32:58 PM
Brazil is not more technologically advanced, they just drive crappier cars.
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
Posts:3,810 Points:416,340 Joined:Mar 2012
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:28:28 PM
CiVX is right. Brazil has had E100 since the '80s so how come they have cars that can run on this stuff?
You saying Brazil is more technologically advanced than the U.S.???
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jkpsr

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New Jersey
Posts:4,094 Points:1,104,830 Joined:Jun 2005
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:23:08 PM
Correction: E85 WILL damage engines!
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hotrod_brother

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Tampa
Posts:12,606 Points:2,232,195 Joined:Oct 2006
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:20:38 PM
E10 causes me enough grief now, can't wait for E15...NOT !!!
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CiVX

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Oakland
Posts:7,055 Points:1,360,360 Joined:Feb 2009
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:20:00 PM
Well they should ask the Brazilians how they have been doing it for decades.
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jrsva

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Virginia
Posts:9,866 Points:1,615,135 Joined:Jan 2006
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:19:30 PM
Gee, engine damage from ethanol — what a unique idea. When is the government going to wake up and realize that this ethanol binge is an all-around loser??
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crreed1

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West Virginia
Posts:2,000 Points:2,529,260 Joined:May 2005
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:18:54 PM
don't want any
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pbear316

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Akron
Posts:2,045 Points:680,065 Joined:Apr 2011
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:18:43 PM
OK
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tedjm1

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New York
Posts:5,609 Points:800,300 Joined:Dec 2006
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:17:34 PM
I do not believe proper testing was done with ethanol. Came about because was greter profit for farmers. Let farms grow food, and let gas be pure.
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JimL1

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Phoenix
Posts:8,222 Points:1,243,395 Joined:Jul 2003
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:17:11 PM
The legislators in congress have been bought and paid for by the campaign contributions from lobbyists and PACs. I know of no one who wants ethanol, however, congress ignores all of us and makes it a requirement.
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
Posts:3,810 Points:416,340 Joined:Mar 2012
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:15:38 PM
abcdMA said, "this is the governments idea of how to save the auto industry."
No, this is the government's way of appeasing the Iowa and Nebraska corn lobby. If you don't support corn subsidies, let your congressperson and senators know about it and threaten to vote them out if they do nothing about this.
And if that doesn't work, run for Congress yourself.
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blueBMW480

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Nashville
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:15:12 PM
Ok
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Bigwaynef

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South Carolina
Posts:11,495 Points:2,083,685 Joined:Dec 2006
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:15:06 PM
Same as adding water to your gas...
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HEBster

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Kentucky
Posts:8,803 Points:2,376,950 Joined:May 2006
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:15:03 PM
Double dislike
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rickone

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Detroit
Posts:559 Points:396,340 Joined:May 2004
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:14:43 PM
Interesting - Thanks for posting.
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umitb

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Indianapolis
Posts:3,692 Points:846,365 Joined:Apr 2010
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:14:38 PM
ok
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BobD2009

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Long Island
Posts:7,004 Points:1,242,710 Joined:Apr 2009
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:12:14 PM
All ethanol is bad.
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gus8441

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Baltimore
Posts:2,129 Points:445,650 Joined:Feb 2012
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:11:46 PM
not a surprise
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yakstar

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Montreal
Posts:2,435 Points:482,570 Joined:Jan 2012
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:11:45 PM
geeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzz...
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
Posts:3,810 Points:416,340 Joined:Mar 2012
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:11:13 PM
I get that everyone here hates ethanol but I have to ask, since one of the reasons ethanol was introduced was to replace MTBE, which was contaminating groundwater, do you want to go back to MTBE?
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rahcat

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Grand Rapids
Posts:2,483 Points:665,875 Joined:Jan 2010
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:10:12 PM
Eat corn.......do not make ethanol.
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miser709

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Grand Rapids
Posts:1,268 Points:1,072,550 Joined:Mar 2004
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:09:54 PM
Ethanol is a BAD idea.
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RetFireLT

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Kentucky
Posts:2,660 Points:171,185 Joined:Mar 2011
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:09:24 PM
No ethanol.
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
Posts:10,552 Points:1,861,295 Joined:Mar 2008
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:09:14 PM
I don't doubt it
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Toppers

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Atlanta
Posts:9,027 Points:2,473,620 Joined:Mar 2005
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:09:10 PM
still not a fan
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PrinceLH

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Ontario
Posts:2,707 Points:540,970 Joined:Jun 2011
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:09:04 PM
They can keep it!
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millerin

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Orlando
Posts:2,322 Points:483,915 Joined:Jan 2012
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:06:11 PM
hmmmm...
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cheapchickKY

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Lexington
Posts:4,032 Points:799,215 Joined:Jan 2011
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:06:09 PM
Hopefully E15 will evaporate.
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visitor_2

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Orlando
Posts:1,652 Points:1,638,905 Joined:Aug 2006
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:05:44 PM
Ethanol is crap
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LostToo

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Illinois
Posts:4,392 Points:975,315 Joined:May 2009
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:05:23 PM
Maybe they will fix the problem before it hits the pumps. ;-) Hahahahahahahah ya think?
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ricebike

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New Jersey
Posts:10,043 Points:1,857,670 Joined:Oct 2005
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:03:46 PM
greedy bastards
keep it at 10%
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regout

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Quebec
Posts:2,970 Points:835,630 Joined:May 2010
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:02:22 PM
Left corn for people.
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TheeRedRam

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Hartford
Posts:3,178 Points:675,560 Joined:Jun 2011
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:02:07 PM
Just what we need
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jem069

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Detroit
Posts:2,553 Points:690,005 Joined:Jan 2011
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 9:01:13 PM
ok
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jim27106

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 8:58:55 PM
srchr,
Exactly. We need to get this message out. So we vote the bums out.
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srchr

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San Jose
Posts:7,264 Points:1,622,750 Joined:Apr 2008
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 8:57:33 PM
politicians don't care - it's the votes that count
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Yankee829

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Dallas
Posts:2,221 Points:562,515 Joined:Sep 2010
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 8:57:02 PM
Ok
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Harry813

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Iowa
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 8:55:16 PM
I do not like ethanol ... I used to.
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Dodge_Me

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Atlanta
Posts:2,214 Points:558,480 Joined:Mar 2006
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 8:52:38 PM
None for me
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